A_ wrote

It would be the most useless car in the entire portfolio. A coupe that has few buyers, and an electric one at that Time will tell.

Not necessarily. True, the coupe has less buyers than the sedan, but there are buyers nonetheless. I would much rather buy the sporty coupe than the family sedan.

I know it's just a render and the final product might look nothing like, but if this is anywhere close - SIGN ME UP for the convertible version. Right now. Seriously.

With no offense intended to current 4-series owners, I simply can't stand the beaver-toothed design of the current generation, and so was "forced" to go 5-series this time around.

I was also a bit hesitant to fully embrace the NK design language because I'm lukewarm to how it's applied on the iX3.

But if this is indicative of how the NK 4-series, perhaps 5- and 7-series, will be presented? And as a REAL two-door coupé, and maybe a convertible? YES. My prayers have been answered.

A_ wrote

It would be the most useless car in the entire portfolio. A coupe that has few buyers, and an electric one at that Time will tell.

Hey, I'd buy one! So that means BMW should do it, clearly.

Looks like a polestar

How can no one at BMW still notice that their weird lines at the front bumper and hood completely ruin their designs?

What is this line about? Pointing where?





Hood should always end at the kidneys and headlights. Not in the middle of nowhere.

emulajavi wrote

How can no one at BMW still notice that their weird lines at the front bumper and hood completely ruin their designs?

It's because this is not an official BMW image. It is a rendering, probably created by AI or a human digital illustrator who works for the Autocar web site, not BMW. In other words, it's a product of somebody's imagination, and AI hallucinations.

Here is the closest thing we have to an official image (from Top Speed - more images on their site). As you can see, that mystery line isn't there.

emulajavi wrote

How can no one at BMW still notice that their weird lines at the front bumper and hood completely ruin their designs?

What is this line about? Pointing where?

Hood should always end at the kidneys and headlights. Not in the middle of nowhere.

How can one not realise, that this picture is pure fantasy and not at all real nor from BMW?

W2k wrote

It's because this is not an official BMW image. It is a rendering, probably created by AI or a human digital illustrator who works for the Autocar web site, not BMW. In other words, it's a product of somebody's imagination, and AI hallucinations.

Here is the closest thing we have to an official image (from Top Speed - more images on their site). As you can see, that mystery line isn't there.

That's not the same car though. this is something else completely, which also has never been seen again after its first apprearance 2 years ago.

Erebor wrote

That's not the same car though. this is something else completely, which also has never been seen again after its first apprearance 2 years ago.

Thank you, I didn't know. Although since it is a 2-door coupé with NK styling, it's arguably still true that it's the closest thing we have to an official look at what a NK 4-series could look like.

This is the most recent image of the Neue Klasse front design.

As it can be see the hood shut line will be awkwardly placed (whereas in the concept in was placed right) and we will also have that cut line above the headlight pointing to nowhere.



It’s as ugly as the 7 series line



When they placed the lines correctly





When they didn’t

It looks a bit off on the G70, the other ones are fine IMO. I don't really mind the hood not extending all the way to the kidneys, and as long as the line on the side naturally follows from the shape of the headlights, it doesn't stand out too much.

In that spy photo from BMWBLOG, most of the front looks awkward, like they're rough panels just riveted on. Possibly this is just for concealment of the actual shape.

We will definitely learn more of the truth of all this when ynguldyn future models crystal ball detects movement in BMWs testing pipeline.

https://g50.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=901686

With the size growth in these platforms I’m wondering if the M4/4 series will be a on a shortened wheelbase to keep the proportions correct for a coupe. Looking forward to seeing what they come out with

emulajavi wrote

This is the most recent image of the Neue Klasse front design.

As it can be see the hood shut line will be awkwardly placed (whereas in the concept in was placed right) and we will also have that cut line above the headlight pointing to nowhere.



It’s as ugly as the 7 series line



When they placed the lines correctly





When they didn’t

Cant argue with this, you are right sir 110%

The thing with the correct hoodline cant be done anymore because of new pedestrian crashsafety requirements. The cars need to have a so called "softnose".
If you make the hood longer to make for better looking fender and hood-lines, the softnose does not work or is very difficult to realize.

Oddly enough, the F87 (this is not my previous car shown in the picture) actually made that awful hood line work.

Erebor wrote

Not necessarily. True, the coupe has less buyers than the sedan, but there are buyers nonetheless. I would much rather buy the sporty coupe than the family sedan.

https://www.bmwblog.com/2024/03/05/2028-bmw-m3-g84-planned/

Okay, now I understand. There will be no next generation of the 4 series and no next generation of the ICE M4. There will only be the electric i4 and something resembling the M4, but ONLY electric.

The M4 is not selling well. Customers are choosing the M3 Touring over the M4 Coupé. Ultimately, the M4 will be discontinued, just like the M8 Coupé and the Z4.

BMW, or rather its owners, care about profits, so they will continue to produce new versions of SUVs and Touring models because those are the only ones that sell, not Coupé or Convertible models.

A_ wrote

https://www.bmwblog.com/2024/03/05/2028-bmw-m3-g84-planned/

Okay, now I understand. There will be no next generation of the 4 series and no next generation of the ICE M4. There will only be the electric i4 and something resembling the M4, but ONLY electric.

The M4 is not selling well. Customers are choosing the M3 Touring over the M4 Coupé. Ultimately, the M4 will be discontinued, just like the M8 Coupé and the Z4.

BMW, or rather its owners, care about profits, so they will continue to produce new versions of SUVs and Touring models because those are the only ones that sell, not Coupé or Convertible models.

Where are you getting this data that the M4 isn’t selling well? M4 (coupe and convertible) outsells the M3 right now doesn’t it?
The North American market doesn’t even get the M3 Touring.

thaalrasha wrote

Design of the M4 peaked with F82 i think...

Yeah. I loved my F80 and 82. Timeless BMW design.

A_ wrote

https://www.bmwblog.com/2024/03/05/2028-bmw-m3-g84-planned/

Okay, now I understand. There will be no next generation of the 4 series and no next generation of the ICE M4. There will only be the electric i4 and something resembling the M4, but ONLY electric.

The M4 is not selling well. Customers are choosing the M3 Touring over the M4 Coupé. Ultimately, the M4 will be discontinued, just like the M8 Coupé and the Z4.

BMW, or rather its owners, care about profits, so they will continue to produce new versions of SUVs and Touring models because those are the only ones that sell, not Coupé or Convertible models.

Where do you get the info that M4 does not sell? Where I live (California), I see just as many G82s as G80s.

Now this one is just ugly.

thaalrasha wrote

Design of the M4 peaked with F82 i think...

There's not an angle on the car I don't like. It's perfect.