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zen0s wrote
Reading is fundamental, but comprehension is key. You’re throwing out a 2% replacement rate like it magically eliminates the issue of massive costs when batteries do fail. That 2% still represents thousands of people stuck with a repair bill that can rival the price of a new car. Stop cherry-picking stats to downplay legitimate concerns.
Analytical thinking is fundamental. Risk is expressed as likelihood x impact. Likelihood is EXTREMELY low. The impact is not high because relative to an ICE vehicle, replacement of the most major component (the engine) is similar (if not more) in cost. That puts the impact relative to ICE (which is what this discussion is about) as moderate at best.

But yea, sure, let’s abandon EVs because there’s a less than 2% chance that a major component will fail. For reference, here’s a $46,000 engine replacement on an M6 (not exactly a notably reliable engine):
https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/ppkb5d/cost_of_an_m6_motor_replacement_under_warranty/
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As a current iX owner and having owned the last 3 generations of M3 and M5, I can't wait to try this thing. The iX is so well tuned from a suspension/driving dynamics perspective that I expect the eM3 to be pretty amazing.
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NickyC wrote
Nobody is going to mourn the current model once it's thankfully gone.
Yet something tells me the butthurt is going to live on rent-free among a certain group of bros for decades 🙌🏼
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ynguldyn wrote
Prediction: this thread will be split between the people who've experienced EVs and know how wild this thing could be and the luddites.

Edit: forgot about another type: the people who mourn the looks of the previous generations of BMW with every new model, only to come back 7 years later and mourn the look they were kicking the previous time.
You forgot about the third group: guys and girls who own an EV and they know how an i4, taycan and even a tesla model 3 are fun to drive and drooling for a 2 door electric M4 and at the same time really miss their E46 and E92s!
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TEGRITY wrote
I don’t know if it’s due to the camo but doesn’t look that big / bigger than the G80, which is positive. Looks a bit smaller than G80, maybe my eyes are tricking me. And it will hopefully have more leg/ head room. Dawn of the new M for what it’s worth!
Thought the same thing. Looks, dare I say, compact.
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LuckyL wrote
I’m not being negative.

If everyone agreed on everything, would the world be the beautiful place it is? No. Disagreement is necessary . If everyone did not share their thoughts or speak up, things would be quite boring no? Not a personal fan of the electric M. It’s ok. You are, that’s ok too.

Beyond how I feel about that particular model, my point was more that I don’t think that a EV should be an M, that’s it. M Cars are driver centric, there’s no way you’re ever gonna tell me that it feels the same to drive a six speed petrol engine compared to any electric vehicle.
Why don’t you rewind a few decades and say M cars shouldn’t have turbos? 🤔
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No thanks! M cars need soul, driver engagement, and true exhaust sounds.

Some sort of AI EV AR supercar sounds like a nightmare.
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When is the 3 series coming out so we can actually see what we will be getting
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Would much rather drive this.. who’s with me?
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Bahn360Photo wrote
When is the 3 series coming out so we can actually see what we will be getting
https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=901686

NA0/NA1 i3
In production 11/26-6/35
Model range: 20, 40, 40 xDrive, 50, 50 xDrive, M60 xDrive
Will be made in Germany and SLP (SLP starts with one year delay).
Will include ZA0 M3 and ZA1 M3 Touring.
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Is BMW M still planning on having parallel platforms - ICE & BEV - for the next gen M3, or have they decided to abandon ICE, or will it be BEV and Hybrid options?

One thing to keep in mind is BMW does the electric driving experience better than anyone else except Porsche… our iXM60 is more fun and interesting to drive than either of our Teslas were.

Looking forward to the new platform. I think it will surprise us in a good way. The right answer on this is to have both an ICE M3 in the garage and the new BEV M3.
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Kid Eh wrote
Why don’t you rewind a few decades and say M cars shouldn’t have turbos? 🤔
A turbo is an addition to an engine. It doesn’t replace it. Hybrids bring an element of electrification to an engine.

To me, going full electric removes a core element of the driving experience. That’s MY opinion obviously it doesn’t mean you have to consider it my man.
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Better looking than the current model. There's also an ICE M3 by the way
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zen0s wrote
It will be fast and heavy just like any other performance EVs. Wonder what M battery replacement will cost...
What does an M motor replacement cost?
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reprod wrote
The Lucid motors are the key to their success. Their motors are highly efficient and compact. They were ex-Tesla engineers who got tired of Tesla holding back innovation.

It would be amazing if BMW would just buy their motors.
Actually they were Formula E technology suppliers and that's how they perfected battery management and motor design.
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zen0s wrote
Reading is fundamental, but comprehension is key. You’re throwing out a 2% replacement rate like it magically eliminates the issue of massive costs when batteries do fail. That 2% still represents thousands of people stuck with a repair bill that can rival the price of a new car. Stop cherry-picking stats to downplay legitimate concerns.
And the cost of replacing a grenaded M engine can cost the price of a new car.
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ghaffari46 wrote
You forgot about the third group: guys and girls who own an EV and they know how an i4, taycan and even a tesla model 3 are fun to drive and drooling for a 2 door electric M4 and at the same time really miss their E46 and E92s!
That's me.
I have a loaded i4 M50 and can't wait to see the electric M4. I'm the customer they are selling to. They guy who has owned multiple M cars and has already bought at least one EV.

My family has been through a total of 5 EVs and we still own 3 of them The oldest is about 3.5 years old and we've only had to buy tires, washer fluid and wipers.

I don't know why anyone doesn't make an electric coupe already?
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techwhiz1 wrote
That's me.
I have a loaded i4 M50 and can't wait to see the electric M4. I'm the customer they are selling to. They guy who has owned multiple M cars and has already bought at least one EV.

My family has been through a total of 5 EVs and we still own 3 of them The oldest is about 3.5 years old and we've only had to buy tires, washer fluid and wipers.

I don't know why anyone doesn't make an electric coupe already?
100 percent agreed, I have an ix and tesla 3 , total of 60 k miles, 0 expenses. Charging at work (free) home having solar panels.
(M2 manual when I miss some noise)
I scratch my head if something is wrong with me?? Why not everyone does that??
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ghaffari46 wrote
100 percent agreed, I have an ix and tesla 3 , total of 60 k miles, 0 expenses. Charging at work (free) home having solar panels.
(M2 manual when I miss some noise)
I scratch my head if something is wrong with me?? Why not everyone does that??
That's funny we have a manual Mini Cooper S for my wife for the feel and I have a six speed M2 on order right now.
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techwhiz1 wrote
That's funny we have a manual Mini Cooper S for my wife for the feel and I have a six speed M2 on order right now.
That’s the only ICE car worth keeping around for a long time! You would not regret that.
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Personally I really like it! I hope it will be able to use Tesla superchargers.
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Let the G84 vs ZA0 "Battle of the M3s" commence. I think this'll even top our F80 vs G80 war of the ages.
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